Waddell: Goalie Spots Wide Open
I was not able to attend the Tuesday Townhall Meeting, but Timmyf and I were at the Wednesday breakfast. Waddell took many questions, but here were the items that stood out to me.
#1 Goaltender Job Hotly Contested
Last year the Thrashers did everything they could do bolster Kari Lehtonen's confidence. Coach Anderson and Waddell both said that he was the number one and they were looking for him to step up his game. But Kari missed yet another full month of the season. Then he had back surgery late in the summer and was not as diligent with his rehab. It appears that the kid glove treatment is over for Lehtonen.
There were a couple of questions about the goaltending spot. Waddell said that Lehtonen is not yet facing shots and they are waiting for the doctors to clear him. Perhaps, even more telling than the words was the tone he used. Then towards the end the frustration became more explicit. "Even when Lehtonen is healthy, he should not assume that the #1 job is his. At this point, I don't think he has earned the right to expect that."
Even Johan Hedberg should not rest easy. Waddell said the best goalies will make the team and that "if a young goalie outplays an older goalie contracts will not decide roster spots"--last time I checked the Thrashers only have one old goalie on their camp roster. Waddell indicated that they did a lot of research on Manny Legace and that he is an established NHL goaltender with a substantial track record. He also said they were very excited about Drew McIntyre. They hotly pursued the minor UFA and offered him a 2 year deal to signal the seriousness of their interest.
One season ticket holder pointed out that it is very important for the team to get off to a good start--and they will play 5 of 6 on the road. He asked, "who do you think will be our starter Opening Night?" Waddell paused, and answered "Pavelec."
Let the goalie battle begin!
The NHL and Thrashers Financial Situation
Waddell was asked about the NHL's salary cap. He said that recent numbers from around the league showed that 20 of the NHL teams were behind on season ticket renewals and the other 10 were either flat or ahead of pace. This is the effect of a bad economy. He expects the cap to fall in the summer of 2010 (which will not be an issue for Atlanta since they are well under it).
In the case of Atlanta, a big concern this summer was luxury box renewals; 49 of the 92 of the luxury boxes at Philips Arena had 10 year leases which expired this summer. The organization was concerned about the renewal rate in a bad economy, but 30 of the 49 boxes have been sold or renewed. Waddell mentioned one other tidbit that actually shocked me. The Atlanta Hawks qualified the playoffs two years ago for their 1st appearance in a long time, and this last spring they made the playoffs and advanced to the 2nd round. Only now have the Hawks passed the Thrashers in season tickets sold! I found that amazing considering that the Hawks have a better record and a longer history in a region with SEC and ACC basketball tradition--and yet the NHL team had more STH?! Waddell said he knows many of the hockey fans in Atlanta are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see a good team and that if they want to sell more hockey tickets they have to win more hockey games on the ice.
He pointed out that the Thrashers were going to add about $8 million in payroll compared to last summer, while the big spenders were required to hold their budgets flat due to the salary cap. Another person asked about the impact on revenue sharing (hopefully a BWA reader) and Waddell said that team payroll would rise by roughly $8 million, and the Thrashers revenue sharing would fall about around $6 million. Ownership was in effect absorbing a $14 million swing by increasing player payroll this summer.
I asked him if staying under the mid point was a significant factor and he suggested they were willing to cross over that line. After the Rangers walked away from Zherdev's arbitration contract, Waddell informed the owners of a surprising opportunity to sign a talented player and they gave him the green light to have talks even though it was not in the original budget. Zherdev ended up signing with Atlant of the KHL and it appears that the dollar amount was one reason. The KHL money goes further because of a much lower tax rate and other benefits that they can offer.
Improving the PK
The Thrashers coaching staff spent their summer working hard to figure out how to fix the Thrashers PK unit. They watched video of the top 10 PK units in the NHL and looked for patterns and strategies. They also want to try spreading the PK ice time out among more players. Fans should expect to see a bigger PK rotation and players such as Jim Slater, Chris Thorburn, Vyacheslav Kozlov, Colby Armstrong and Rich Peverley will see more PK minutes in an effort to keep everyone fresh. (I hope to have a post on this topic soon.)
Ilya Kovalchuk Contract
The Thrashers and Kovalchuk are not discussing a "lifetime contract" ala Hossa's recent deal. The Thrashers don't want a front -or back-loaded contract. And Kovalchuk isn't willing to sign a lifetime contract because he hopes to play perhaps as long as age 40--which would be 13 more years! It sounded like they were talking a term somewhere in between 5 and 8 years, which would then allow Kovalchuk to sign another deal if he desires to play into his late 30s.
Carl Klingberg Update
Someone asked about the Thrashers European players and the European Scout was present and mentioned four players who could contribute at the NHL level: Klingberg, Lasu, Zubarev and the ever elusive Nikulin. Klingberg was impressing while playing in a pre-season Swedish Elite League tournament where he led everyone in goal scoring. It appears both he and Lasu will play at the senior level this year.
Olympic Schedule
NHL teams will play 82 regular season games in 180 days instead of the 185 days used last season. The games will be compressed and (hopefully) this might benefit a younger team like Atlanta. He also mentioned that the overall team fitness in the strength and cardio areas were the best in team history. Slava Kozlov in his late 30s had the best VO2 number of anyone on the roster. "Any player who wants to see what a professional athlete looks like should just watch Kozlov." (I can make a good guess as to who he was thinking of when he said "any player".)
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“if a young goalie outplays an older goalie contracts will not decide roster spots”- hmm … I’ll believe that when I see that.
Slater and Thorburn on the PK? Sigh. I guess we all knew Slater would be back to muck that up. I have no problem with using Kozlov, Armstrong and Peverley for the job along with guys like Reasoner.
Thanks for the report. Interesting stuff.
by Zontar on Sep 17, 2009 7:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wednesday Breakfast
I attended the breakfast yesterday and heard some good questions and answers too. One answer that I liked was to the question about the loss of revenue sharing based upon how much the Thrashers spent against the salary cap. Mr. Waddell said that they will have spent around $50 million when all is said and done, which he said will cost the team about $6 million. In addition to the $8 million spent on salary than usual, they are risking about $14 million, but he said that he and the owners are committed to spending more to get a better team on the ice. He said that he went to the owners about going after players that would require more salary, and he received no opposition. So, to me, I was renewed with some confidence that Mr. Waddell and the owners are more committed to getting a winning team.
He also stated that things are progressing toward Kovalchuk’s new contract; there were things that were happening in Kovalchuk’s contract negotiations that did not happen when they were negotiating with Hossa. He told all of us what they were, and I believe there is a difference. I am not sure it is a good idea to say why here. If you read about it elsewhere, then that is good. From what was said, I think he will sign.
I also met Rick Dudley, and was glad to meet him. I am really excited about this season, and think that the Thrashers will be better. Mr. Dudley says that the Thrashers are on the right track, and it is an exciting time for this franchise. I believe it too.
Last thing, with Zherdev’s departure, Waddell said that they are very committed to having Evander Kane make the team. I think that Zherdev, like Falconer has said, was there in case Kane would not make the team. Waddell and Anderson really think he is ready to start with the team. He has gone from 160 to 185, and is filling out and gaining strength. I met him yesterday, and he is a pretty big kid. I was impressed with his skating ability. I also got to see Kubina and Antropov yesterday and meet them. They are really big! With these two, Boris, Hainsey, and Bogo, we’ve got some big players!
Waddell also talked about the players and said that many if not all of them came back in better shape than he has ever seen from an entire group. He said that the player that was in the best shape was Slava Kozlov. Slava had the highest rating on the VO2 test. Slava is 37, and one of the older players on the team, and he is in better shape than anyone! Wow! I got a chance to see him and Colby Armstrong in practice, and both of them were in great spirits! Colby is hilarious; he is just a clown, and is great for keeping the mood light!
I am going to the preseason game on Sept. 27th vs. Tampa Bay, and am really encouraged by what I have seen and heard. I don’t want to jinx anything, but I really believe that the Thrashers are going to be much better!
I also got to meet Manny Legace as he came off the ice, and he said he was glad to have the opportunity to be here. Like Falconer said, Legace has been a great goaltender, and he was chosen because he has great character and is a great team player. I was surprised that Waddell gave the answer to the starting goalie question, but he said that the goalie spot is not set in stone; he said that because of the problems in goal last season, they are going to do whatever it takes to make sure we have good goaltending. With 6 goaltenders in camp, I really believe that they are serious about this.
One other thing I remembered was what Waddell said about the players buying into John Anderson’s system. He said that the players are really buying into it, and that the the last 18 games of the season showed how committed the players were. He said between the way they played at the end, the shape that they players came in into camp really marks a sign of commitment that he has not seen before. With all of these things combined, I really believe that this is going to be a better year. I think that if the defense and the PK are better, then the team will be better. I don’t talk about the offense as much because I think that 3 of the 4 lines are better. I think that if the 3rd line is Reasoner, Armstrong, and Kane, I think it will be good if Kane comes out and is effective; I have no doubt in Reasoner and Armstrong’s ability. Not saying Kane won’t be good, I am just not sure yet how he will play. I think that Bogo-Enstrom, Kubina and Hainsey will be good too. Not sure about Boris and Salmela. I think that if Boris makes some better decisions and not drop the gloves as much, he will be better. Not saying he shouldn’t at all, but I think of teams that don’t fight as much and they play better. I am curious to see how this 3rd defensive line is going to work out; will Valabik and Salmela really work out well or are we going to see Kulda, Lewis, or Oystrick stay up. My overall impression of the players, and I got to talk to quite a few after practice was that they seem more relaxed, confident, yet excited for the season to start. Even Popovic, who played the past year in Russia, was optimistic. I am not sure in what cappacity he will play, but he said the year in Russia was good for him. He looked good in practice too.
by BTF on Sep 17, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
$50 million
I was wondering about the $50 million in salary. Is that including 2-way contracts from guys who will be playing in Chicago or just the cap hit? Otherwise they will have to add a couple million more to reach that $50 million.
by Dutch Thrasher on Sep 17, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cap hits and actual salary paid are not identical. It could be actual salary. Not sure.
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by The Falconer on Sep 17, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m betting Waddell is also factoring in bonuses. Kane and Bogosian i particular may not hit them all but that could still easily turn into a couple million spent.
I’m really really really encouraged about the off-season work on the PK. There’s always much discussion about the effectiveness of personnel (Falconer with his great stats) but given it’s been mostly attrocious across the board, I think it’s always been systemic more than individual problems. Find a better system that works and even guys like Slater can be taught to effectively kill penalties.
by WINGZ_25 on Sep 17, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Then he [Lehtonen] had back surgery late in the summer and was not as diligent with his rehab”
And the Legend of Donut Boy continues.
by CuckooForKovalchuk on Sep 17, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Waddell said he knows many of the hockey fans in Atlanta are sitting on the sidelines waiting to see a good team and that if they want to sell more hockey tickets they have to win more hockey games on the ice.
LOL. Actually, we’re trying to get them back to the sidelines. :)
by fatschoonerrat on Sep 17, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
50 million
Wingz 25 and Falconer,
Now that you mention it, I think Waddell did say that the 50 million does include bonuses for Bogo, Kane, and others. Waddell was estimating, but I remember that he was saying that as if it will happen. I think it was actual salary. If Kane makes the starting team and does not go back to Vancouver, I am sure that his salary would be different. And like I said, and maybe Falconer said it too, I really think that Waddell and Anderson want Kane to be on the starting team. Waddell said, point blank, that they are “giving him every opportunity to make the team.” I really think that unless he plays miserably in preseason, he will probably make the team and probably be on the 3rd line. I can’t see him being on the 1st or 2nd lines yet. Maybe if they need to shake things up, maybe, but I just can’t see Anderson putting him on any other line. Maybe alternating him and Peverley on the 2 lines, but I think that they are going to look to solidify those two with a regular line provided they both stay healthy.
by BTF on Sep 17, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan Hinote
Falconer,
I was reading James Mirtle’s blog, and he notest that Dan Hinote will probably not make the tryout with the Sharks. I have also seen a good rumor that the Sharks are close to signing Manny Malhotra. If Hinote doesn’t make the Sharks, why have the Thrashers not brough him in either. Vivlamore just broke the news about Afinogenov; Fritsche and Legace are also already here. Why not Hinote? You said he was a good two way forward that has not been signed. Do you have any word on Hinote, and why he won’t make the Sharks and/or why the Thrashers did not look at him. I should have asked about that yesterday. I asked quite a few questions, but couldn’t remember them all.
by BTF on Sep 17, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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