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Game 6: The Shapes of Things - Thrashers head to Montreal, Look to Improve to 5-1-0.

Heading into the sixth game of the season, who would've guessed things would look like this? The Thrashers are 4-1, riding a lethal combination of a very potent offensive attack, solid special teams work, and a goalie team that has been at times downright stellar. On the flipside, you have Montreal. The Canadiens, after a promising 4-2-1 preseason, have gone a lackluster 2-5, making this summer's big roster turnover look like a failed experiment, and putting the franchise in danger of their worst start in 68 years. To be fair, Montreal has already lost 4 players to injury, including defensemen Andrei Markov & Ryan O'Byrne. Defense hasn't been the only soft spot though, as the Habs offense has produced a little more than 2 goals per game, giving vaunted netminder Carey Price precious little support. Given the acquisition of high profile players like Mike Cammalleri, Brian Gionta and Scott Gomez, the hockey-mad market in Montreal isn't liking these results. The Canadiens forward lines have shown flashes of what could be, but the team has yet to gel.

Any of this sound familiar, Thrashers fans?

Let's hope the lightning-bolt-AHA!-epiphany doesn't happen tonight.


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Aaron's Take:

What the Thrashers Need to Do:

Keep playing as a team. The hustle has been outstanding since the loss to Ottawa, the wins have kept on coming. Everyone knows their job and no one is overreaching or underperforming.

Capitalize on Montreal's porous defense. The Thrashers have been scoring in bunches, and then letting off the gas later in games. I would recommend stopping this practice, as it may come back to burn them in the future. The motivation to knock off a hot team must be running pretty rampant through the Habs dressing room right now.

Take that PK magic and work it full-strength style. The Canadiens' forwards are not exactly the largest of men, so keeping them to the perimeter for some awkward angle shooting might be a good idea.

Ilya Kovalchuk needs to break his Habs Curse. Kovy has just 4 goals in his last 13 games against Montreal, and only 8 goals in 28 career games against Montreal.

 

Tim's Take:

Don't look now, but the Thrashers are 6th in the Eastern Conference with at least one game in hand against every other team in the conference. They're 2nd in the Southeast Division with 3 games in hand against Washington, but only 2 points to make up. You could do worse than to think of the Thrashers as the current top team in the Southeast Division. (This gets to a point which I'm sure we'll make repeatedly before next game: these two Thursday games against the Capitals are exceptionally important.)

I'm not a betting man, but those of you who wager may have noticed that the Thrashers were not favorites to win the last four games. Their Stanley Cup winning odds are still 100:1. Where we see a vastly improved team, "experts" and non-fans are not necessarily convinced. I can understand some of their skepticism: we've been badly outshot (no Thrasher has a positive 5-on-5 Corsi number) and the majority of our scoring has come from Kovalchuk plus our 3rd line. If Kovalchuk slows down or the 3rd line stops seeing such favorable matchups (those three guys bottom out Behind the Net's "Quality of Competition" stat), the Thrashers could see a quick change in games.

Then again, remember this: national sports writers don't watch Thrashers games (with a couple exceptions) unless the Thrashers are playing a team they are interested in. How many times did we hear all about a supposed Kovalchuk-Hossa line that didn't exist during the Bob Hartley years? It's the same thing now - they might have better fact-checkers, but the truth is, there's not a lot of Thrashers-specific knowledge in the national media.

(That's why you're reading BWA, I assume.)

With all that said, here are the things I'm going to be watching over the next few games:

 

Can Ondrej Pavelec keep it up? It's not easy for a goalie to face 40 shots every night, especially when that goalie is young and playing as a starter for the first time. With goalies, you have to think of shots the same way you think of ice time for skaters: the more ice time they play, the more likely they are to get injured or get flustered on the ice. If Pavelec continues to see such high shot totals, it'll start to wear him down. If we want him to stay healthy and play 60 or 65 games this year, our defense is going to need to step it up a bit. The biggest problem with shots against appears to be the 3rd D pairing, specifically Mark Popovic. There's a stat that we can use to see a player's relative effectiveness at producing and denying shots called "relative Corsi." 

 

  1. Can the 3rd line continue to produce? After both Todd White and Maxim Afinogenov scored against New Jersey, my focus has left that line and turned to a more productive line. If you talk to me in person, it won't take you long to realize that I'm a huge fan of this line. I've been a fan of Colby Armstrong since he came over from Pittsburgh and I think that he works very well with Rich Peverley. I've liked the two of them with Evander Kane (though I think that swapping Kane and Slava Kozlov might pay dividends, right now I'm firmly on the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" bandwagon). So far, though, this line has been producing one goal per game. If that starts to dip - to say a half-goal per game - the Thrashers will lose most of their current edge. Really, this is more a question of Rich Peverley. So far Colby Armstrong hasn't scored a goal and Evander Kane has two. If Army doesn't get going, when Peverley comes back down to earth, it could be an entirely different story.
  2. Can Ondrej Pavelec keep it up? It's not easy for a goalie to face 40 shots every night, especially when that goalie is young and playing as a starter for the first time. With goalies, you have to think of shots the same way you think of ice time for skaters: the more ice time they play, the more likely they are to get injured or get flustered on the ice. If Pavelec continues to see such high shot totals, it'll start to wear him down. If we want him to stay healthy and play 60 or 65 games this year, our defense is going to need to step it up a bit. The biggest problem with shots against appears to be the 3rd D pairing, specifically Mark Popovic. There's a stat that we can use to see a player's relative effectiveness at producing and denying shots called "relative Corsi." 

    It basically works like this: 

    (Shots for - shots against)[while player is on ice] - (Shots for - shots against)[while player is off ice]
    Mark Popovic comes in at -18. Christoph Schubert isn't much better at -16.3. Anssi Salmela is the best of those 3rd pairing guys at -3.5. This is, I think, I pretty good argument toward keeping Salmela in the lineup. (Of course, Popovic leads Thrashers D-men in the +/- per 60 minutes category, so who can really say?)
  3. Can the Thrashers keep up their shooting percentage? You can win games while getting badly out-shot if you score on a significantly greater percentage of shots than your opponent. I present to you, without much in the way of comment, a graph showing the shooting percentages both for and against for all 30 teams in the NHL.
Shootingpct5games_medium

Edmonton is WAY up there because of the game against Nashville. The Calgary Flames are, like the Thrashers, scoring in bunches. The Thrashers are a bit of an outlier, though. It concerns me that we could start to trend downward in that stat.

I was hoping to write a longer post on shooting percentage, but I feel like I've said enough for now. This is something I'll be monitoring over the next few games.

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Also, an apology is in order

It’s not fair of me to subject you to that graph.

by timmyf on Oct 19, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The graph would be fine if the gridlines were a light gray…

by Jarndyce on Oct 20, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

That graph scares me. it looks suspiciously like a Powerpoint presentation, which of course = work.

And we can’t have any of that.

by Pogue Mahon on Oct 20, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good suggestion. I’ll try that next time. (I was somewhat in a hurry when I was posting this.)

by timmyf on Oct 20, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The graph works very well with the “shape” conceit in the title.

we’re so clever, we don’t even know it.

Being a Thrashers fan - it's kind of like being punk rock in a hick town.
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by aaron b on Oct 20, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that Antarctica from a polar projection perspective?
I swear I can see the Ross Ice Shelf there :)

All things Thrashers + stats: www.birdwatchersanonymous.com

by The Falconer on Oct 20, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought someone was playing Tempest instead of graphing. I was excited.

Is there a statie out there that charts “scoring chances” as well as shots? I’d like to see what percentage of our shots allowed are gilt edged opportunities versus a simple shot on goal.

by 0vermars on Oct 20, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope. The closest thing is using shot location data, but that data doesn’t tell you things like—was this a breakaway or an odd man rush? I’d love to get my hands on the scoring chance numbers that the media compile during games. I assume all that gets tossed out.

All things Thrashers + stats: www.birdwatchersanonymous.com

by The Falconer on Oct 20, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do

But for the habs; I have a bug with the web thingy that convert the chances into a table tough, so I don’t know if I’ll be able to have it up tonight.

Also, my website is in french. But french numbers look suspiciously like english ones, so you should be fine :)

by Olivier on Oct 20, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I personally liked your chart, at least once I figured it out. By ignoring shot totals and focusing on percentaegs it makes our offense and defense look goo—all while looking a little like a bad boob drawing.

by godsendjen on Oct 20, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This was something I made during some preliminary research for some mini-posts I’ll start to get up soon. I wanted to see what sort of variation you saw in the shooting percentages across the league, but I wanted more data up-front than you can get from average and std dev stats.

There’s more to come, hear you me.

by timmyf on Oct 20, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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